@1151854 wrote: Im starting to agree, lets keep vanilla as vanilla as possible. It has been my life experience that most people will not cause harm when they will have no personal gain and almost no one will when there is accountability. However, there are a few that become as destructive and painful to others as they can be no matter the situation. Perhaps it is a way to express internal trauma in an outlet they think will leave them at peace but it never does. It continues a cycle of abuse that continues to grow. When grief becomes part of the mainstream culture on a server, community breaks down and tribalism is strengthen. I doubt that a mindset that is picked up while playing on vanilla will be limited to only vanilla and it will hurt us all as a community and how we build up minetown's population again. That being said, when asked about the intention of the vanilla server. I think it is clear that pushing detective work onto a group of people who's only responsibility on the vanilla server is to make sure that it is on, updated, and not causing bugs goes against the desire to have vanilla be a basic server - but so does having claims and unbreakable chest. There is a reason we do not have vanilla set to "only your enderchest contents are safe" - Our vanilla server is more forgiving then the base game. We also have the nether highway. To say that we shouldn't allow log checking available to everyone because of the intention of the server being basic.... well, that boat has already sailed and for good reason. We instead need to talk about if there is good reason to take away log checking from the public.

I'm worried that by voting no then the ability to check logs will then be taken away from the public and only be used by staff. Kind of the whole if we make guns illegal then only criminals will have guns argument - which is normally illogical but I'm expressing my feeling/emotion on this subject not the logic of it. I know this isn't the case for most of staff but it is a worry that log checking will become something some people on staff do in secret and we wouldn't know they are doing it. Does the command get tracked or will it be restricted to only manager level staff? Also, I'd like to thank Bumpy and Rodney for being our most trusted members. I know it is a lot of work/headache doing what you do - Thank you.

Update: Asked Bumpy

What is wrong with this type of stuff being put in chat? There will be new pigmen in 1.16 and you can trade with them (∩◕(oo)◕∩) I need to get some coffee \̅_̅/̷̚ʾ High-5! ┏(-_-)┛┗(-_- )┓ Hey again! ヘ(°￢°)ノ

Please start up build contest again when we have the new blocks with 1.16. There are many new colours and even some new textures that are coming out. Maybe a weekly, bi-monthly, or monthly contest?